Concord neck repair
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Concord neck repair
Hi guys
I have a concord neck that has a twist in it that I need to put right. It has a lovely flame on the back and is definitely too pretty to bin.
Ive made myself a jig which should let me twist it back hopefully. Im currently soaking the neck to get some moisture into it
Heres a pic. Any thoughts or advice
I have a concord neck that has a twist in it that I need to put right. It has a lovely flame on the back and is definitely too pretty to bin.
Ive made myself a jig which should let me twist it back hopefully. Im currently soaking the neck to get some moisture into it
Heres a pic. Any thoughts or advice
Last edited by challpa on Sun Jun 14, 2020 3:39 am; edited 1 time in total (Reason for editing : duplicate pics)
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Re: Concord neck repair
Oh, nice - another cool project!!
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Re: Concord neck repair
If guitars were football players it would be the knees we'd be trying to fix.
This seems to be the month for neck troubles, eh:
my goofy little Ovation, now your Concord, and if it makes you feel any better, there's a fellow over at the Parker forum who has a Fly model with a permanently bowed mahogany neck!
I'm not sure that I would "soak" the neck, you don't want to cause water damage on top of everything, but brushing some water on the raw wood or wrapping the neck in plastic with wet sponges inside to raise the humidity would add some flexibility.
Looks like you're doing everything right from what I can see, even to the point of removing the fret board. That can be clamped flat again once the neck is under control.
And I love the clamps!
Good stuff, it should come around OK methinks.
This seems to be the month for neck troubles, eh:
my goofy little Ovation, now your Concord, and if it makes you feel any better, there's a fellow over at the Parker forum who has a Fly model with a permanently bowed mahogany neck!
I'm not sure that I would "soak" the neck, you don't want to cause water damage on top of everything, but brushing some water on the raw wood or wrapping the neck in plastic with wet sponges inside to raise the humidity would add some flexibility.
Looks like you're doing everything right from what I can see, even to the point of removing the fret board. That can be clamped flat again once the neck is under control.
And I love the clamps!
Good stuff, it should come around OK methinks.
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Re: Concord neck repair
I bought this one from Damian as a project. I think he removed the fretboard as the truss rod was broken. Fretboard is pretty good. I have purchased a double acting truss rod so if she comes straight I will rout, fit truss rod and get the fretboard back on before it decides to twist again
I have wet the exposed part of the neck and wrapped with a wet towel and its mounted in the jig ready for adjustment.
Does anybody have experience regarding how long to soak before adjusting then how long to dry before removing from jig
I have wet the exposed part of the neck and wrapped with a wet towel and its mounted in the jig ready for adjustment.
Does anybody have experience regarding how long to soak before adjusting then how long to dry before removing from jig
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Not me, Paul - I'm watching with a fair amount of interest, though!! :-)
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Re: Concord neck repair
I'd soak it for about half an hour.
I did soak the fretboard and clamped it for a good few days 'till dried out.
Would do no harm to soak it again.
Looks like a nice jig you've made, should do the job...
I did soak the fretboard and clamped it for a good few days 'till dried out.
Would do no harm to soak it again.
Looks like a nice jig you've made, should do the job...
Re: Concord neck repair
Thanks mate - its in the jig. I removed the towel and made adjustment to get the twist out then put the towel back on. I will probably remove the towel tomorrow and let it start drying out. May take a few attempts to get it rightWestbone wrote:I'd soak it for about half an hour.
I did soak the fretboard and clamped it for a good few days 'till dried out.
Would do no harm to soak it again.
Looks like a nice jig you've made, should do the job...
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It probably took some time to get into that predicament in the first place, so rushing likely would not be too successful.
As you say it may require more than one attempt.
I'll need to remember that as I attempt to reset my Ovation's neck.
As you say it may require more than one attempt.
I'll need to remember that as I attempt to reset my Ovation's neck.
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Re: Concord neck repair
After a couple of weeks in the jig the twist is down to less than 1mm. Soaked it again and back in the jig for another adjustment. Also need to correct a bit of a forward bow. Ive purchased a double acting truss rod but its a bit longer than the original - is it OK to rout right up to near the nut ? I have about 16.5 mm of neck depth and need to rout in
8mm deep for the truss rod. Any thoughts ????
8mm deep for the truss rod. Any thoughts ????
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Re: Concord neck repair
Think that is a bit long.
An inch shorter would be better. A little close the the beveled end of the fingerboard.
An inch shorter would be better. A little close the the beveled end of the fingerboard.
Re: Concord neck repair
Westbone wrote:Think that is a bit long.
An inch shorter would be better. A little close the the beveled end of the fingerboard.
Yeah I did think the same - maybe modify this one or try to get another
This one is 18" - next one down in length at stewmac is 14 1/4 " which would be too short
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Cheers mate I will check it out
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OK I have ordered one that is 16.5" so 1 1/2" shorter, should be good. Dont know why I didnt think of ebay lol. Thanks Damian
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Re: Concord neck repair
How did it turn out in the end? Did you permanently straighten the neck?
This thread gives me great hope I can make a similar repair on my Spectrum LX. It had a small issue when I bought it and discovering rust on the neck bolt threads made me realize the guitar had had some substantial moisture exposure at some point in it's past. Tightening the truss to compensate made it more playable, but now I'm getting some separation of the fretboard at the nut and I think that removal and straightening may be the best solution.
So I'm curious as to how this project turned out in the end and am wondering if anyone has further advice on the application of moisture to the process. How much is enough? How much is too much?
Thanks for such an informative post, the photos have inspired several ideas about how I'll pursue fixing this problem.
This thread gives me great hope I can make a similar repair on my Spectrum LX. It had a small issue when I bought it and discovering rust on the neck bolt threads made me realize the guitar had had some substantial moisture exposure at some point in it's past. Tightening the truss to compensate made it more playable, but now I'm getting some separation of the fretboard at the nut and I think that removal and straightening may be the best solution.
So I'm curious as to how this project turned out in the end and am wondering if anyone has further advice on the application of moisture to the process. How much is enough? How much is too much?
Thanks for such an informative post, the photos have inspired several ideas about how I'll pursue fixing this problem.
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