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Post by Thunder-Chunder Sun Nov 17, 2013 11:11 am

Not sure on this but looks like a cutlass to my untrained eye that may be of interest to someone given the price.

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Post by westcoaster Sun Nov 17, 2013 11:50 am

Absolute steal for someone.
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Post by gittarasaurus Sun Nov 17, 2013 12:21 pm

darn shame it is so far from califonia Sad
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Post by Annoying Twit Sun Nov 17, 2013 2:52 pm

There have been some real bargains recently. There was an Aria Pro 2 SB700 with a case in great nick for £120 local to me, but despite me contacting the gumtree seller instantly I saw it, it was already gone.
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Post by RtheF Mon Nov 18, 2013 3:44 am

Thanks for the tip-off, Thunder-Chunder.  I emailed - unbelievably it was still available - arranged to get there later this morning to pick up, got the address and his mobile number - even told my son what he was getting for Christmas.  Then about 11 last night he emails to say that a "family friend" has offered him more so the guitar is no longer available.  He didn't even ask me first.  Kept me awake half the night thinking about it.  Isn't there a law against this sort of thing?
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Post by punkyjam67 Mon Nov 18, 2013 4:26 am

RtheF wrote:Isn't there a law against this sort of thing?
Sadly not, but there should be a firing squad involved, somewhere along the line... Rolling Eyes Hunting
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Post by Catalyst Mon Nov 18, 2013 5:29 am

That's bad form RtheF, I've had it happen to me and it's not nice....
'Family friend' - aka someone else muscled in and offered a bit more cash.
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Post by Thunder-Chunder Mon Nov 18, 2013 6:10 am

RtheF wrote:Thanks for the tip-off, Thunder-Chunder. 
No prob's, Happy to help a fellow Westie fan

I saw the listing had been taken down last night so hoped it had gone to someone in here but that sucks, would appear the seller hasn't heard the term a gentleman's agreement
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Post by Annoying Twit Mon Nov 18, 2013 10:46 am

I'm not a lawyer, but I would guess that a contract hadn't been formed at the time the seller backed out.

There was an early Korean looking Aria Pro II on gumtree for £40. I thought it worth a shot. But I didn't receive a reply to my email for a few days. When a reply came back, it said that due to the number of responses, clearly they had misjudged the price, and it was now £90. I didn't feel like continuing on in the slightest.
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Post by RtheF Mon Nov 18, 2013 10:57 am

I think I realised I was "stealing" it in the first place but it really was up to him to check out a reasonable price - which wouldn't have been difficult since there's an identical guitar on ebay at the moment.  What's annoying is that he didn't ask me politely if I would like to match the other offer.  He didn't even seem to think there was anything wrong with ditching me like that.  It must be the new way of things...  I think I'm getting old...
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Post by Catalyst Mon Nov 18, 2013 11:28 am

I seem to recall covering situations like this at college many moons ago, and I do think that a verbal (oral) contract is as legally binding as a written contract...it is just harder to prove because it is your word against his.
If you had an agreement, through Gumtree, via email, and you really wanted the guitar I'm pretty sure you could take appropriate action and would be successful.

But I'm not 100% on this - it's just a gut feeling....
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Post by Annoying Twit Mon Nov 18, 2013 11:45 am

You'd have to show that the seller intended to create a legal contract through the email agreement. The offer and acceptance may be there, and the consideration may be there, but showing that the seller intended to create a contract may be tricky. It may come down to the actual language used in the seller's email. Though, I'm not a lawyer so I don't claim that anyone should take much notice of this.
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Post by RtheF Mon Nov 18, 2013 12:36 pm

Blimey!  What have I started?!  I'm pretty sure I do have emails that amount to a morally binding agreement... but I don't think I'll be taking him to court!  Life's too short.
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Post by hoax Mon Nov 18, 2013 12:44 pm

You could summarily execute him. Or torture his cat or put dog poop in a paper bag on his door step, set it alight, ring the door bell and run away.

If you need more then let me know.

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Post by Annoying Twit Mon Nov 18, 2013 12:46 pm

RtheF wrote:Blimey!  What have I started?!  I'm pretty sure I do have emails that amount to a morally binding agreement... but I don't think I'll be taking him to court!  Life's too short.
It's the internet. I don't think anyone expects you to take him to court. But that doesn't stop people discussing the what-ifs and how-ifs.

I can point you to entire forums where people are discussing how they would survive in a coming zombie apocalpyse.
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Post by hoax Mon Nov 18, 2013 12:48 pm

If it really was zombie apocalypse, I would kill people and eat them. I'd be fine.

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Post by Annoying Twit Mon Nov 18, 2013 12:49 pm

hoax wrote:If it really was zombie apocalypse, I would kill people and eat them. I'd be fine.

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Post by westcoaster Mon Nov 18, 2013 12:50 pm

hoax wrote:If it really was zombie apocalypse, I would kill people and eat them. I'd be fine.

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Post by hoax Mon Nov 18, 2013 1:22 pm

Yeah Robert you could come round for tea!!

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Post by westcoaster Mon Nov 18, 2013 2:08 pm

To be honest, I find them a bit bland and tasteless.
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Post by Catalyst Mon Nov 18, 2013 3:55 pm

RtheF wrote:Blimey!  What have I started?!  I'm pretty sure I do have emails that amount to a morally binding agreement... but I don't think I'll be taking him to court!  Life's too short.
You asked the question 'is there a law against this kind of thing?'

With respect mate, you ask a question on a forum you are going to get an answer, particularly if the forum is as helpful as the guys here are.
No worries, only trying to help Cool
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Post by RtheF Mon Nov 18, 2013 5:37 pm

All your support much appreciated, too.  You all got me through a bad day!  Thanks.
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Post by grogg Mon Nov 18, 2013 6:19 pm

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Post by grogg Mon Nov 18, 2013 6:21 pm

westcoaster wrote:To be honest, I find them a bit bland and tasteless.
What, contracts, zombies, southerners or hoax's tea?
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