Back from the dead, T1a restoration
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Back from the dead, T1a restoration
The weather is fine, the projects are none and the guitar funds aren't too bad, so here goes!
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SO..the body and neck are in great physical shape, just a couple small dinks here n there, but...the finish is worn off in places under the (horrid) paint job so its a total refinish from bare wood jobbie, including the neck as it had been revarnished at some point.
The gain circuit functions ok, at least it seems to without strings and tapping the coils.
We all know the "light oak" original finish looks great, been there..where I havent been is
http://forum.westoneguitars.net/t339-thunder-i-a-restoration
or
http://forum.westoneguitars.net/t2334-westone-thunder-1a
or even
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yeah that last one aint no Westone, but the colour is ace!
I can't decide, stain and clear or tinted nitro deal..I put it to the board and ask for suggestions (with photo evidence if poss)
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SO..the body and neck are in great physical shape, just a couple small dinks here n there, but...the finish is worn off in places under the (horrid) paint job so its a total refinish from bare wood jobbie, including the neck as it had been revarnished at some point.
The gain circuit functions ok, at least it seems to without strings and tapping the coils.
We all know the "light oak" original finish looks great, been there..where I havent been is
http://forum.westoneguitars.net/t339-thunder-i-a-restoration
or
http://forum.westoneguitars.net/t2334-westone-thunder-1a
or even
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yeah that last one aint no Westone, but the colour is ace!
I can't decide, stain and clear or tinted nitro deal..I put it to the board and ask for suggestions (with photo evidence if poss)
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I saw this on the bay mate.....too much for me to attempt.
Imo, the grain is all important with some of these finishes....it might be an idea to totally strip it and see what ya got before deciding which way to go.
Love the green, but the grain really sets it off....if the grain ain't all that then maybe the one shown on your second link 'toffee burst' might be a better option...as that also looks really good.
May the force be with you on this one.![Cool](https://2img.net/i/fa/i/smiles/icon_cool.gif)
Imo, the grain is all important with some of these finishes....it might be an idea to totally strip it and see what ya got before deciding which way to go.
Love the green, but the grain really sets it off....if the grain ain't all that then maybe the one shown on your second link 'toffee burst' might be a better option...as that also looks really good.
May the force be with you on this one.
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Yep, my grain is a tad nondescript, my first thought was strip and tru-oil, that's what the neck is getting.
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As far as restorations go, this is a good one, eh; really just lots of sanding and finishing!! Oh, and making some covers... unless you're going to go with a packing tape motif?!
That see-through green is stunning; I really like that one! If the figuring is fit for purpose, the world is your oyster.... trans black or purple.... maybe even a graphic of some kind? The Angel of the North or the Millennium Bridge??
I like graphic finishes....
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That see-through green is stunning; I really like that one! If the figuring is fit for purpose, the world is your oyster.... trans black or purple.... maybe even a graphic of some kind? The Angel of the North or the Millennium Bridge??
I like graphic finishes....
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Angel of the North? Good lord no! Gormley can kiss my arse
Nah graphics aren't really my cuppa, trans black or purple could be good.
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Nah graphics aren't really my cuppa, trans black or purple could be good.
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Ahhh, but you're a funny lot up there!! When we visited in 2010, the received wisdom was that the Angel polarised opinion like billy-o, and so it did, with the general feeling being that it was a blight on the landscape! However - and this is as a visitor who'll probably never see it again, sadly - I thought it was wonderful, even if Polly said it looked like a crashed Dornier!
Anyway, trans black is really cool...
http://www.edroman.com/customshop/color/transblack.htm
... and I likethe purple too...
http://www.paulreedsmith.org/1992-paul-reed-smith-ce-24-rare-purple-with-maple-board/
... like I said, the world is your oyster! Are you tempted to do something original? I know these days I certainly am...
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Anyway, trans black is really cool...
http://www.edroman.com/customshop/color/transblack.htm
... and I likethe purple too...
http://www.paulreedsmith.org/1992-paul-reed-smith-ce-24-rare-purple-with-maple-board/
... like I said, the world is your oyster! Are you tempted to do something original? I know these days I certainly am...
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A crashed Dornier! haha never made the connection before
I am thinking something original, at least something that wasn't factory, willembad's trans blue is just delightful but maybe my grain and my skillset isnt ready for that just yet, though nothing ventured nothing gained eh?
I will have to stick to aerosols as I have no compressor/gun setup....yet, anyone had experience with 2K aerosol?
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I am thinking something original, at least something that wasn't factory, willembad's trans blue is just delightful but maybe my grain and my skillset isnt ready for that just yet, though nothing ventured nothing gained eh?
I will have to stick to aerosols as I have no compressor/gun setup....yet, anyone had experience with 2K aerosol?
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There. Fixed.Sgt. Vimes wrote:...nothing ventured nothing grained eh?
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Hey, I'd stay away from aerosols. Go with a wiping stain. Love that green, but I'm a sucker for trans black.
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Re: Back from the dead, T1a restoration
hehe thanks
The thing is...I already have a lovely green stain (spirit based) and a black one too...call me cheap but I'm looking at spending NO further monies on this if I can help it.
Tru oil on top of spirit based stain....will it smudge?
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The thing is...I already have a lovely green stain (spirit based) and a black one too...call me cheap but I'm looking at spending NO further monies on this if I can help it.
Tru oil on top of spirit based stain....will it smudge?
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Don't think it'll matter....you have seen its current condition?Sgt. Vimes wrote:....will it smudge?
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Whatever you do will be an improvement....go for it mate, this is your moment to cast aside inhibitions and go with whatever you fancy.
If you have snotty green lying about then I say go green.
Worst that can happen is that you really f*** it up - and then you can part it out eh?
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Ha! very cunning, as cunning as a fox what used to be Professor of Cunning at Oxford University but has moved on and is now working for the U.N. at the High Commission of International Cunning Planning.
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Well Ive been ploughing through tons of pics of guitars and wood finishing and mostly drawing a blank, though one thought keeps resurfacing and that is the beautiful olive green of the Burns Marquee
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leaving the trad maple center natural and no burst.
I will almost definately use a stain then clear/oil for ease and practicality, just finding an olive stain is tricky.
what think you lot?
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leaving the trad maple center natural and no burst.
I will almost definately use a stain then clear/oil for ease and practicality, just finding an olive stain is tricky.
what think you lot?
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Loving the green and if you can get some red and gold in there as well you may well have a buyer already lined up
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Lord have mercy!
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I can sort of see that working on a thunder with the through neck, three distinct body sections???? ![Twisted Evil](https://2img.net/i/fa/i/smiles/icon_twisted.gif)
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Haa, you might be on to something there!
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I think all you would need to do is add a small amount of black to the green to darken it. Lots of experimentation needed to get what you want I suppose.Sgt. Vimes wrote:...just finding an olive stain is tricky. what think you lot?
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Re: Back from the dead, T1a restoration
Hmm, i thought adding a little brown or orange, but google says a tiny spot of black and brown/or orange, so we both be right
Is it common for a spirit based stain to smudge and move when a second coat hits it? I found it really difficult to stop that happening on the Urchin.
Is water based the way to go?
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Is it common for a spirit based stain to smudge and move when a second coat hits it? I found it really difficult to stop that happening on the Urchin.
Is water based the way to go?
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On Saturday I got all my gear together to start sanding this down, only to realise my sander died when stripping down the Raider a couple months back....so a quick jaunt down to the woefully understocked Homebase to get a little palm jobbie.
Apart from a few deep seeped stains the body is in great nick, the brasswork has had a first coat of clear too.
Had the first body sand shot in photoshop trying to come up with something cool, teal? aqua? pink??
too hard to decide, but I want to avoid browns as they've been done.
Definately going for an oil finish, the high gloss poly job is just going to be too expensive and time consuming, plus I have the oil here
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it looks like this has had 3 paint jobs over the years, black, blue and that last silver horror show, some was undercoated, some not.
I'm happy to leave the dark remnants in the grain there as it'll have a black wash and sandback before I colour it, I could keep sanding forever trying to get that out!.
so fellas, I want more colour ideas, black burst is interesting, but not sure how it will look with the maple separating the wings.
Purple maybe?
hell I don't know!
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Wish I could help beyond suggesting trans black or trans purple, Sarge....
I mean, I'm struggling with the finish for my project guitar far less offering anything valid for yours!!
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I mean, I'm struggling with the finish for my project guitar far less offering anything valid for yours!!
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Looking good Sarg
You have probably already done this but this link to various wood stains might be of some help, good luck
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http://modthesims.info/d/480222
You have probably already done this but this link to various wood stains might be of some help, good luck
Move the slider along to see more images
http://modthesims.info/d/480222
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Choosing colours isn't meant to be this hard!, I mean, it's so permanent unless I want to end up with a wafer thin body.
I love teal and turquoise guitars, but on this? I 'unno.
Si, cheers for the link, but been there already and the choices make my head hurt!
I love teal and turquoise guitars, but on this? I 'unno.
Si, cheers for the link, but been there already and the choices make my head hurt!
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Along the Teal line, with the thru neck
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At the risk of being obvious here, I think that the woods used in this guitar pretty much dictate the finishes that work.
The centre laminate of Maple and Walnut really needs to be "natural". A trans finish on it looks bloody awful IMHO. And if you cover it with a solid stain, well, what's the point of having that beautiful detail in the first place?
The Ash grain on the wings is amazing and needs either a natural or a trans finish. Now then, because the centre detail is a focal point and light in colour, it makes sense that the wings need to be darker for contrast. Uncle Mats got it right with his choices.
So, this eliminates lighter shades and suggests concentrating more on the primary colours. About the only ones not used on the Thunders AFAIK are Green, Blue and possibly Purple.
I personally love the blue on the Skylark's (rebranded Aria Pro II CS series). It shows off the grain beautifully and would get my vote here.
The centre laminate of Maple and Walnut really needs to be "natural". A trans finish on it looks bloody awful IMHO. And if you cover it with a solid stain, well, what's the point of having that beautiful detail in the first place?
The Ash grain on the wings is amazing and needs either a natural or a trans finish. Now then, because the centre detail is a focal point and light in colour, it makes sense that the wings need to be darker for contrast. Uncle Mats got it right with his choices.
So, this eliminates lighter shades and suggests concentrating more on the primary colours. About the only ones not used on the Thunders AFAIK are Green, Blue and possibly Purple.
I personally love the blue on the Skylark's (rebranded Aria Pro II CS series). It shows off the grain beautifully and would get my vote here.
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Re: Back from the dead, T1a restoration
I always had the thought that the maple center stays neutral, although I did colour the very center narrow strip same as the wings on photoshop and it didn't look awful, but in reality I think it would come out a different shade to the ash.
I think tonight I'll hit it with black and see how it looks, and go from there.
Appreciate all your input guys, keep it coming, cheers
I think tonight I'll hit it with black and see how it looks, and go from there.
Appreciate all your input guys, keep it coming, cheers
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Dunno if this has come up before, or lately, but it would be wise to use a wood sealer ahead of the stain. This will ensure that the grain absorbs the colour more evenly.
Otherwise you could end up with areas which are darker than others. Then yer back to sanding!![affraid](https://2img.net/i/fa/i/smiles/affraid.gif)
Otherwise you could end up with areas which are darker than others. Then yer back to sanding!
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Re: Back from the dead, T1a restoration
Yarp, I plan on using a grain filler paste mixed with black stain (have both these already) and then possibly sand sealer pre staining. Cheers
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Slightly off topic and inspired by the stripped wood but how are the wing sections attached to each other and the body, is it purely glued or do they use biscuit joints or the like?
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Glued as far as I can see.
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So last night I mixed the black stain with the grain filler, and applied.
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then sanded it back to wood and sprayed on the very last of my sand sealer, literally the last dregs, got about 99.9% coverage!
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and the same for the headstock
![wiring - Back from the dead, T1a restoration Dsc_0739](https://i.servimg.com/u/f39/18/28/30/65/dsc_0739.jpg)
the marks around the tuner holes are old paint seeped under the veneer, new tuners arrived today (cheers for the link damian!) and the washers cover some, not all the stains.
I don't think I'll give it a black stain as the stained filler seems to have done the required job.
so as it stands I'm debating wether to go green stain or aú natural, must admit I do like the look as it is, thoughts?
![wiring - Back from the dead, T1a restoration Dsc_0736](https://i.servimg.com/u/f39/18/28/30/65/dsc_0736.jpg)
![wiring - Back from the dead, T1a restoration Dsc_0737](https://i.servimg.com/u/f39/18/28/30/65/dsc_0737.jpg)
then sanded it back to wood and sprayed on the very last of my sand sealer, literally the last dregs, got about 99.9% coverage!
![wiring - Back from the dead, T1a restoration Dsc_0738](https://i.servimg.com/u/f39/18/28/30/65/dsc_0738.jpg)
and the same for the headstock
![wiring - Back from the dead, T1a restoration Dsc_0739](https://i.servimg.com/u/f39/18/28/30/65/dsc_0739.jpg)
the marks around the tuner holes are old paint seeped under the veneer, new tuners arrived today (cheers for the link damian!) and the washers cover some, not all the stains.
I don't think I'll give it a black stain as the stained filler seems to have done the required job.
so as it stands I'm debating wether to go green stain or aú natural, must admit I do like the look as it is, thoughts?
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Re: Back from the dead, T1a restoration
Natural would be wonderful...but kinda average.
Green though, would be....![bounce](https://2img.net/i/fa/i/smiles/icon_bounce.gif)
Green though, would be....
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Re: Back from the dead, T1a restoration
Been testing the green and some purple I made up on off cuts of ash, didn't like either so have reluctantly spent some pennies on
BLUE
updates as and when![Smile](https://2img.net/i/fa/i/smiles/icon_smile.gif)
BLUE
updates as and when
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Why "reluctantly" Pete? Blue good!
It was my earlier pick. The Skylarks, et al, just look gorgeous.
Even my old Vantage resto came out rather nice, even without any black high lighting, just a sealer.
Water based stain with Tung oil finish:
![wiring - Back from the dead, T1a restoration VantageAvangerAV310-Strings](https://2img.net/h/i628.photobucket.com/albums/uu10/eames/VantageAvangerAV310-Strings.jpg)
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It was my earlier pick. The Skylarks, et al, just look gorgeous.
Even my old Vantage resto came out rather nice, even without any black high lighting, just a sealer.
Water based stain with Tung oil finish:
![wiring - Back from the dead, T1a restoration VantageAvangerAV310-Strings](https://2img.net/h/i628.photobucket.com/albums/uu10/eames/VantageAvangerAV310-Strings.jpg)
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Reluctantly because I'm a tight old git!
Blue was also my first choice, but I know I can't achieve the results of my earlier link with stain and oil.
I did find my local homebase diy sells polyurethane clear in an aerosol which is much cheaper than anything eBay can offer, very tempting I must say.
Blue was also my first choice, but I know I can't achieve the results of my earlier link with stain and oil.
I did find my local homebase diy sells polyurethane clear in an aerosol which is much cheaper than anything eBay can offer, very tempting I must say.
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Re: Back from the dead, T1a restoration
Like this??
http://forum.westoneguitars.net/t339-thunder-i-a-restoration
http://forum.westoneguitars.net/t339-thunder-i-a-restoration
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Aye that's the link I started with.
Couldn't repost it as I was on my phone at the time.
Couldn't repost it as I was on my phone at the time.
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Any decent car paint shop will mix you up a tinted lacquer, in a rattle can! for around a tenner.
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Yes but then I have the added pain of blending the middle clear stripes with the tinted wings, I really don't want to tint that maple!
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Err! wait for the paint to dry!!
How do you think custom cars get done. Don't see blurred lines do you.
Mask off the centre maple, spray the wings to desired colour(with tinted lacquer) remove tape before fully dry. Let wings fully dry. Build up centre with clear to same as wings. Then spray whole guitar in clear. Flating as you go.
That's one way of doing it.
How do you think custom cars get done. Don't see blurred lines do you.
Mask off the centre maple, spray the wings to desired colour(with tinted lacquer) remove tape before fully dry. Let wings fully dry. Build up centre with clear to same as wings. Then spray whole guitar in clear. Flating as you go.
That's one way of doing it.
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Hats off though to all you guys that attempt this level of restoration...I have neither the skill or patience required to do anything other than basic maintenance ![Cool](https://2img.net/i/fa/i/smiles/icon_cool.gif)
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Been spraying bikes and cars for a good part of my life.
Guitars are a piece of p*ss.
Guitars are a piece of p*ss.
Re: Back from the dead, T1a restoration
sorry, didn't see these posts.Westbone wrote:Err! wait for the paint to dry!!
How do you think custom cars get done. Don't see blurred lines do you.
Mask off the centre maple, spray the wings to desired colour(with tinted lacquer) remove tape before fully dry. Let wings fully dry. Build up centre with clear to same as wings. Then spray whole guitar in clear. Flating as you go.
That's one way of doing it.
Yes, thats exactly how I pictured doing it, and that's exactly why I didn't do it!
when I said blending the clear, I meant building up the clear to the same level...just as you said. I'm not there with my abilities yet so one step at a time...this is only my 3rd or 4th total refinish and the sprayed ones werent great,, but the oiled ones were MUCH better.
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How do you know? have you tried?Catalyst wrote:Hats off though to all you guys that attempt this level of restoration...I have neither the skill or patience required to do anything other than basic maintenance
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pick up a piece of crap strat copy and go for your life!
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![wiring - Back from the dead, T1a restoration 14891020483_9f3818b246_c](https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3918/14891020483_9f3818b246_c.jpg)
![wiring - Back from the dead, T1a restoration 14684622627_871baa7d17_c](https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3838/14684622627_871baa7d17_c.jpg)
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Where was I?
Ok..sanded back the sanding-sealer and applied blue stain, sanded back again as I missed quite a few patches of sealer!
More blue, waited an hour then one more coat and that's what you see here.
Since these pics they've had 3 super thin coats of Tru-Oil which has obviously taken the blue to a vague green hue, almost the teal I was after...almost.
more pics tomorrow.
Is there any truly clear linseed based oils on the market like this Tru Oil?
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Ooooh, this is gonna be gooooood!! ![bounce](https://2img.net/i/fa/i/smiles/icon_bounce.gif)
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![wiring - Back from the dead, T1a restoration 14894715193_b5e8ee7988_c](https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3895/14894715193_b5e8ee7988_c.jpg)
![wiring - Back from the dead, T1a restoration 14688324157_d25180de6d_c](https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5552/14688324157_d25180de6d_c.jpg)
![wiring - Back from the dead, T1a restoration 14851866616_3e36cee8cc_c](https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5588/14851866616_3e36cee8cc_c.jpg)
Here after 3 or 4 extremely thin coats of oil, another couple of the same then wire wool and go again.
me be happy
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Danish oil.
Is there any truly clear linseed based oils on the market like this Tru Oil?
Looking very good...
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Thanks!
All the danish oil I've seen up close has had a tint to it, plus is it right that danish takes a lot longer to dry than the blended oils like Tru etc?
All the danish oil I've seen up close has had a tint to it, plus is it right that danish takes a lot longer to dry than the blended oils like Tru etc?
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