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Post by Mark_ir Tue Sep 02, 2014 9:51 am

Hi all 
I have a Super Headless that has been stripped and in pieces. 
It's the red/black version with Dual Tone and Active on off switches (not the later one with the phase control added). The pickups are the J style hum buckers with wiring in red, blue, green and yellow. 

There are no wiring diagrams available anywhere on the net that I can find. All those available point to the Thunder 11, which is the same as then later 3 switch model, but differs in colour coding and switching from mine

Can anyone help with a diagram or photos of the same model that I have?

Here's hoping…
cheers
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Post by Clive Shakedown Wed Sep 03, 2014 5:09 am

Hi again Mark. 
Been thinking bout your query.
Maybe have a look at the thunder 3 wiring?
They have a p and a j pickup, so I don't think it would be too hard to imagine it with 2 jazz pick ups?
If you don't want the actives then the demarzio site has lots of wiring diagrams for all configurations.
I'm sure there are lots of guys on here that can tell you the colour coding for your pickups. 
Hope you get it sorted.
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Post by Mark_ir Wed Sep 03, 2014 6:15 am

thanks, but the Thunder 3A (P/J config) I owned also had the 3 mini toggles. Same as the 2 and the second version of Super Headless

maybe if anyone has the Thunder 3A Mk2, with the Magnabass pickups they could help... it looks like it might be the same

I can do down the passive route, but if anyone has this early Super Headless, or a 3 Mk2, just some photos of the wiring cavity would help a lot

It's about time this wiring config got added to the Westone.info/wiring site


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Post by Barry Wed Sep 03, 2014 12:05 pm

Mark_ir wrote:...It's about time this wiring config got added to the Westone.info/wiring site
Uh, that would be the http://www.westoneguitars.net/fixme/wiring-diagrams/ which is our own site. Wink

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Post by Mark_ir Wed Sep 03, 2014 1:08 pm

hmm.. ok
your URL has the same list of diagrams as the one I found at westone.info/wiring - looks like the same page, but laid out differently

I would have put the full link, but this forum won't let newcomers post links for 7 days after joining. 

don't suppose you have one of these basses?
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Post by Westbone Wed Sep 03, 2014 1:40 pm

Give me a day or two I'll stick up some photos of my s/headless's guts for you.

Not the same pups as yours but same switching.

Just had a similar problem with those JB style pups. Which are a stacked h/bucker as you know. They used different coloured wires on a few.

Here's a link, not the same but might help a bit.
http://forum.westoneguitars.net/t5239-concord-bass-ii-purple-red-84
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Post by Barry Wed Sep 03, 2014 4:34 pm

Mark_ir wrote:...your URL has the same list of diagrams as the one I found at westone.info/wiring...
That's because it was based on the same initial data courtesy of David Blair who owned the original westone.info site which is now an archive. Ours has continuous input from the forum members here and is updated continually with new pictures, history, and repair info.

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Post by Mark_ir Wed Sep 03, 2014 4:48 pm

great, thanks both, I'm enjoying this site...
with a little help from Mr Westbone we can get this info up here too

cheers
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Post by Barry Wed Sep 03, 2014 5:01 pm

Be happy to add it when yer ready! wiring - Super Headless wiring Toothless_smile

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Post by Westbone Thu Sep 04, 2014 7:53 am

Black+red are one side of the pup orange+Brown the other
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Post by Mark_ir Thu Sep 04, 2014 8:08 am

Thanks very much.
The colours are different (it baffles me why they used such random selections..) , but I'll see if I can translate

much appreciated

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Post by Westbone Thu Sep 04, 2014 9:15 am

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Post by Westbone Thu Sep 04, 2014 3:47 pm

Feel free to add a diagram to the website.... Cool

Help folks in the future.. Smile
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Post by Barry Thu Sep 04, 2014 8:31 pm

Post it here and I'll grab it and put it up on the website.
In the meantime I've referenced this thread for anyone else who may be searching. Smile

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Post by Westbone Thu Sep 11, 2014 2:44 pm

Wonder how he got on?

Suppose no news is good news.... Twisted Evil
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Post by Mark_ir Thu Sep 11, 2014 4:33 pm

Got it working. Working on a diagram
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Post by Mark_ir Sun Sep 14, 2014 11:44 am

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Post by Mark_ir Sun Sep 14, 2014 11:49 am

so... having no computer art skills, I hope the above makes sense... and many thanks to Beth_rf for translating my scribbles.

This is the earlier version of the Super Headless with the Jazz style stacked humbuckers.
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Post by Barry Sun Sep 14, 2014 1:32 pm

Schematic has been added to the wiring section of the web site.
Cheers Mark!

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