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Post by Lastchild68 Thu Apr 23, 2020 12:58 pm

Hello Iam very new here and Iam not sure if this is a question or topic that has been asked or Iam missing something. I need a or the wiring diagram to a Pantera 300x. Some of the wires are still connected which is a help. I know how to solder etc. If someone who owns one maybe take a picture of the inside for me, Any and or all help would be appreciated. I have never wire a guitar before but if I had a diagram I know I could. Please and thank you for all input.  Very Happy Laughing
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Post by Sgt. Vimes Thu Apr 23, 2020 2:28 pm

Is yours 1 Volume or 1 volume 1 tone?
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Post by Lastchild68 Thu Apr 23, 2020 4:57 pm

Hello thanks for asking Very Happy its a push pull pot, one volume and tone in one. I'am gonna posting a picture of what I have. I think I'am looking past it on the internet I have searched but I don't see a diagram for it online. As you will see most is still connected. I think I will have to re solder four wires and its the front pick ups orange purple blue and green wires from the switch and pot.
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Post by gittarasaurus Thu Apr 23, 2020 8:30 pm

your guitar has been modded
original Pantera setup had only a volume control



from the website Guitar Electronics;
https://guitarelectronics.com/volume-control-converts-to-tone-control/#gallery
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Post by gittarasaurus Thu Apr 23, 2020 8:35 pm

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Post by Lastchild68 Thu Apr 23, 2020 8:59 pm

Like I said Iam new and dont mid asking dumb questions, lol, how do I post a picture?
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Post by gittarasaurus Thu Apr 23, 2020 9:09 pm

at the top of the forum you can find "FAQ"
when you clik on that you should look for the section titled "Formatting And Topic Types"
in that section clik on "Can I post images"

hopefully that will help
you will need to wait 7 days after you sign up in order to post images, it is a way to reduce spam and other trash that shows up in the forums
after that you can post all the pics you like
(i use shutterfly to host my images because it is free)
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Post by Lastchild68 Thu Apr 23, 2020 9:18 pm

Thank you so much, I took a picture of everything I will post it soon and try to wire this up. I came across this guitar in 1990 it was hot and hot pink. Long story short its now white, But I didn't mod anything and pretty sure it came from a store. Interesting to know you say its been modified. The tremolo looks different than the hot pink one you have in the picture there. I get the picture posted asap it will be complete soon
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Post by Lastchild68 Thu Apr 23, 2020 9:46 pm

Here is a link to a picture of the wiring, the switch the pot and pick ups. Hope it works and everyone can see it. Hope I didn't break any rules.https://link.shutterfly.com/rL7PMn4VV5
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Post by gittarasaurus Fri Apr 24, 2020 12:13 pm

this one has a different trem than the others i posted
notice also the different font for the writing on the guitar as opposed the others
this is an early edition, sometimes known as the Leslie West version since this was the style shown in the adverts when he was a Westone endorser
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all the Pantera 300 guitars were originally issued with a push/pull pot, but it was a volume control with single coil/double coil option, and no tone control
so a previous owner probably wanted a tone control
the one thing about the p/p for volume or tone control is that when selected for tone control, the volume is full up maximum output only
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Post by Lastchild68 Fri Apr 24, 2020 9:05 pm

Thats the trem on mine, thanks for the info, Im still gonna look around some more and make sure i do it right lol
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Post by Lastchild68 Sat Apr 25, 2020 1:46 am

Like I said I have never wired a guitar and not sure now. I'am positive it was never modified. I'am sure I do not know what it does, It is a push pull but what it does I don't remember it has been since the 90's since I played it. So I think you are right, It is volume control with single coil/double coil option. I'am positive its never been modified
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Post by corsair Sat Apr 25, 2020 5:03 am

Some were modified at the factory; in fact, I'm quite sure any that have volume and tone circuits were modded there - mine certainly was!

The push-pull pot is simply a coil split on a Pantera; on some of the real tricky Spectrums all of the three controls were push-pulls; coil split, centre pickup on/off and phase reverse....

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Post by Lastchild68 Sat Apr 25, 2020 5:26 am

Now I'am confused, I wonder if anyone could look at the picture I linked and tell me??
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Post by ExFender Sat Apr 25, 2020 7:47 am

One way that might clarify if the tone or volume pot was added post-sale is to remove the pot and inspect the hole itself.  If there is paint IN the hole and the area directly on the edges is not chipped (might have some minor damage), then it is likely factory stock.  When done after-the-fact there will often be some obvious chipping and the hole will be completely clear of any paint or finish.
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Post by Westbone Sat Apr 25, 2020 9:53 am

Lastchild68 wrote:Now I'am confused, I wonder if anyone could look at the picture I linked and tell me??

From your photo it is being used as a coil split/tap on the humbucker of course.

The skinny red wire is the coil tap.
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Post by Lastchild68 Sat Apr 25, 2020 4:52 pm

Holy Smoke, Thank you so much to everyone I cant say thank you enough. Ok, It was pink I'am the one who stripped it put primer on it been in a box since. No damage to the hole when I took it apart, Great advice thank you Exfender and westbone for making it clear. In the next few days I will wire her up and link a picture. I can never have to many guitars.
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Post by Barry Sat Apr 25, 2020 8:33 pm

Lastchild68 wrote:... I can never have to many guitars.
That's what I said to my wife.  Thumb Up

And it worked . . . sort of.
Lots of guitars, but I sleep alone now. Neutral

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Post by Lastchild68 Sun Apr 26, 2020 12:05 am

Well if you wouldnt sleep with your guitars, There might be more room, LOL!
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Post by gittarasaurus Sun Apr 26, 2020 3:11 pm

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on the blade switch you can see the connections;
yellow-neck
purple-middle
white-bridge
blue is output to volume pot

on the p/p you can see;
the red wire from the center tap on the humbucker, the grounding wire from the middle lug to the ground connection point (still present in your posted pic)

below that you can see the connections on the volume pot;
blue is from the blade switch output
white is the volume pot output to the jack
the last lug is connected to ground

at the ground connection point you can see the blue and green wires from the neck and middle pickups and the bare wire from the humbucker cable
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Post by Lastchild68 Sun Apr 26, 2020 5:53 pm

Gittarasaus THANK YOU SO MUCH!!!! I check the forums and I have a diagram to check my work by so cool of everyone, Much love, not to much though, LOL! and once again to all who contributed. Last night I wired her up and everything went smooth, Well sorda small work space took some patience and a few burns on my finger LOL!. She is ready to go I'am stringing it up now I will link pictures sometime today THANK YOU TO ALL Without you guys it would still be in a box.
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Post by Lastchild68 Mon Apr 27, 2020 5:31 am

Ok here is a link to pictures after I finished it, I have been playing it all day and night. I like it, Might change the pick ups, But for now Iam just gonna play it. Thank you to everyone who helped and had advice. https://link.shutterfly.com/8ZcBrTEs15
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Post by gittarasaurus Mon Apr 27, 2020 1:37 pm

looks like you have one of the early models there

yours may have had the 'noodle' font on the body, like on the white one i posted as opposed to the trio photo that all have the newer "Pantera" font on the body

other special details; only the early Pantera 300 guitars had the "W" logo on the headstock instead of the more common "W Westone" headstock printing. i also notice you have the different string lock used on the earlier versions (i think it is made by Kahler). the later versions with the Bendmaster Deluxe trem had a stringlock typical of other Bendmaster equipped Westone guitars

glad to see you got it all working again. these are great guitars! enjoy your new/old guitar! cheers
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Post by Lastchild68 Mon Apr 27, 2020 5:12 pm

Thank You for the info, I'am the one who stripped it and its all original never changed anything but the color, There was 300x on the headstock I took that off. I digress, I was wondering now if i could somehow find the original decal that was on them like you were speaking of. So I'am now looking into that. I got this guitar from my BF's landlord. My Bf passed away less than a year later, It's very special to me. So I named it Leslie. LOL! I name my guitars, Like everyone else, Well I think we all do. R.I.P Les!
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