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Post by Meadows Thu Mar 20, 2014 4:39 pm

Has anyone any experience of the Hammer Humbucker pickups as used on the Concord H II range?

Described in the catalogue as being "Powerful", are they rock pups and/or could they give warm clean tones?

Thanking You
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Post by Sgt. Vimes Thu Mar 20, 2014 6:13 pm

mmk 45's mate  Wink
also seen on the thunder jet amongst others,    falls under that oft used disclaimer " specifications subject to change...."
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Post by Westbone Thu Mar 20, 2014 6:24 pm

Warm but wouldn't call them clean.
MMK 53's are more an articulate pup.
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Post by Sgt. Vimes Thu Mar 20, 2014 6:25 pm

well on my thunder 1, coil tapped in switch middle position they are very clean....
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Post by Westbone Thu Mar 20, 2014 6:36 pm

Well they would be.
Coil tapped in parallel = clean

As a humbucker warm, hot and mushy
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Post by Sgt. Vimes Thu Mar 20, 2014 6:36 pm

yup
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Post by Meadows Thu Mar 20, 2014 6:50 pm

Thank you gents, I was thinking of having a punt on the Concord H II thats on the bay at the moment but without the cleans it won't get played, shame.......

Where then please will I find MMK53's, as in which models?

Pete..praying for a safe delivery

Damian.. wishing you a speedy recovery, time to start playing again
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Post by Westbone Thu Mar 20, 2014 7:06 pm

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Post by Meadows Thu Mar 20, 2014 7:20 pm

Ok, gotya, Thunder II's (530's), many thanks......although that's only on version 1, then you get the C, then the super twin 1, then on the IIA version 1 the F two magnet, the HF--c on version 2, and then we are back to the super twin I's on version 3. MAD!!!!!!

I know, I did ask !!!!! Sad

PS: Love the way you so casually flaunt your hareem, that's a really nice collection


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Post by corsair Thu Mar 20, 2014 8:22 pm

Yeah... Damian does that just to make us all hate him equally, I think; he has GOOD gear!  Very Happy 

53's seem to be found on the active Matts; the T-IIA has 'em as does my Vantage VA900, the 61s for the 335 clones and probably the big jazz boxes, too, and the 75s on the X350/390; sound about right?
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Post by Westbone Fri Mar 21, 2014 3:00 am

Just easier than typing a load.. Wink 

http://forum.westoneguitars.net/t4998-going-rate-for-a-thunder-2a

If your looking for a clean sound with bite..Thunder II, forget the actives...just don't like 'em.
Thunder II(passive) has PEQ(series/parallel) and a phase switch. You want clean, it's spotless...

Not the Korean made piece of junk version IV. That's just a cobbled together guitar using all the bits available and who knows what the pickups are.
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Post by Westbone Fri Mar 21, 2014 3:20 am

Any of the Rainbows, Prestige models have a good clean sound.MMK75 equipped.
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Post by Meadows Fri Mar 21, 2014 3:24 am

Unadulterated guitar porn...Love it  cyclops 

Thanks for the steer, I'll see where the finances are in a couple of weeks and place a wanted ad, would like to find a good example if poss
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Post by Westbone Fri Mar 21, 2014 3:35 am

Meadows wrote:Unadulterated guitar porn...Love it  cyclops 

 Thumb Up me too
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Post by The Chad Fri Mar 21, 2014 8:46 am

High output vs. lower output.  And I agree with John....

"Yeah... Damian does that just to make us all hate him equally"

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Post by Westbone Fri Mar 21, 2014 10:39 am

~~No it's not high v lower output~~

It's magnets mainly
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Post by The Chad Fri Mar 21, 2014 11:05 am

So the DC resistance kOhms is the same from the MMK75's to the MMK45's and MMK53's?
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Post by The Chad Fri Mar 21, 2014 11:17 am

They are similar in terms of of kOhms, right on. 

MMK45, 53, and 75's are all ceramic magnets (ferrite), with the 53's and 75's being the same type of ceramic mag (Anisotropy Ferrite). 

Varying from roughly 10.something to 11.something (or higher, as they are knows to greatly vary).

The only Alnico mags were in the mmk61's.
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Post by Westbone Fri Mar 21, 2014 12:11 pm

And the magnetic strength ?

75's are alnico II
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Post by The Chad Fri Mar 21, 2014 12:54 pm

Not if the #765 is actually the MMK75, which logically they would be.  See the link below...

Clicketh Thou Here

How do you know they're Alnico II?
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Post by Westbone Fri Mar 21, 2014 1:22 pm

The Chad wrote:
How do you know they're Alnico II?

Because I can read.. Smile 
http://www.westoneguitars.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/p15.jpg

I also believe that MMK53's are alnico 5's in Westone's . I'm no magnet expert but can tell the difference between a ceramic and alnico from sight.
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Post by The Chad Fri Mar 21, 2014 1:37 pm

study  Thinking   Look, just because you're literate doesn't mean that you're better than me.   Laughing  

Makes you wonder how many actually were actually Alnico II, though?  They REALLY MEANT IT when they said "Specifications subject to change without notice"!  

Someone on the Electra forum has an MMK45 out of a Vantage, he measured it... surprise!  It read 17k!   affraid 

Mat pickups are like a box of chocolates.  You never know what you're gonna get.
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Post by Westbone Fri Mar 21, 2014 1:48 pm

Ooh err! misses
Well your only reading someone's guff on Vantage.. Laughing 

Each make, be it Vantage, Aria, Westone had their own 'voice' so to speak.
They're not going to change the pup bottoms to suit. It'd cost a fortune.
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