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Post by goyoav Thu May 24, 2012 3:48 pm

hi
i have a stratocaster westone serial number 1049758 what year is this guitar? sorry for my english
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Post by gittarasaurus Thu May 24, 2012 4:30 pm

are going to start dating already? we just met..... Very Happy

you could begin here, skip down until you see 'how old is my guitar'

1049758
1=1981, 04=April, 9758 - the last part is apparently a tally number of how many guitars made.


which model do you have?
looking at the serial number, and you say 'stratocaster', i'm gonna guess you have a Concord :?:
of course we all want to see some pics too...

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Post by Barry Thu May 24, 2012 4:35 pm

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Post by midhilis Thu May 24, 2012 4:48 pm

Probably the wrong place to look for this question. If it really is a Stratocaster, see the first page of www.westone.info -

Please note that this site does not cover:

Electra or Electra-Westone guitars (See the links page for a site that does cover them)
The Westone 'Prestige' models (Corsair and Cutlass) made in the UK in the late 1990s
Electric guitars and basses made under the Westone name in China or Korea since the late 1990s, which all seem to be copies of other makes such as BC Rich (Mockingbird and Warlock), Gibson (Les Paul, SG, 355) and Fender (Strat, Tele, Precision bass) - apart from the name, these guitars have nothing in common with the original Westone guitars


Matsumoku Westone dating systems probably do not apply to this guitar.
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Post by beavis Fri May 25, 2012 6:18 am

midhilis wrote:Probably the wrong place to look for this question. If it really is a Stratocaster, see the first page of www.westone.info -

Please note that this site does not cover:

Electra or Electra-Westone guitars (See the links page for a site that does cover them)
The Westone 'Prestige' models (Corsair and Cutlass) made in the UK in the late 1990s
Electric guitars and basses made under the Westone name in China or Korea since the late 1990s, which all seem to be copies of other makes such as BC Rich (Mockingbird and Warlock), Gibson (Les Paul, SG, 355) and Fender (Strat, Tele, Precision bass) - apart from the name, these guitars have nothing in common with the original Westone guitars


Matsumoku Westone dating systems probably do not apply to this guitar.

This "new" Westone brand is apparently owned by a German company who is claiming to be linked to the original Westone. I saw today, it ended and I couldn't copy the pic, an ebay auction for the 2009 catalog of this company, the cover page of which stated: "Jubileum, 30 years of Westone 79-09", shocking...
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Post by goyoav Fri May 25, 2012 10:53 am

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Post by goyoav Fri May 25, 2012 10:54 am

this is my stratocaster ,are you sure 1981?
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Post by EvilVOG Fri May 25, 2012 11:37 am

Maybe try the Fender fourm. i tried everything i know on that one. it's an odd one, the Stratocaster made in Japan is supposed to have a letter prefix. This is possibly a copy, or a fake. How does the logo look on the headstock? Are the edges raised?

Another way to date a fender is to take the neck off. If it's genuine it will be stamped with a manufacture date on both the neck and body.
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Post by gittarasaurus Fri May 25, 2012 12:35 pm

goyoav wrote:this is my stratocaster ,are you sure 1981?
may i ask why you think it is a westone?

the westone serial numbers are just that , Westone Serial Numbers

the system is relatively simple and straightforward, but it is not a universal system used by others. many people will call any guitar with 3 single coil pickups a 'strat', so my guess at the age of your guitar was based on the idea it was a Westone guitar with 3 single coil pickups.

the one in the picture is clearly not a Westone guitar.

a guitar may, or may not, be made by the matsumoku company simply based on that style neckplate. that item is not always a definitive attribute, especially because it can be exchanged with another, and also because it was used by other companies around the same time. that neckplate style was used in the 1970's.

i'm rather certain matsumoku never produced a guitar with "Fender" on the headstock.


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Post by Guest Fri May 25, 2012 12:56 pm

This guitar looks like a Japan made copy of '70s strat with a fake decal on the headstock.

the real 70s strats had a 3 bolt neck plate with an F on it.
the neck plate on this looks like the same you will find on Grecos, Lyles, Hondo etc and other companies that copied other guitar makers.

It might be a good guitar, but no way is it a real Fender.
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Post by The Chad Fri May 25, 2012 4:23 pm

sarcaster wrote:This guitar looks like a Japan made copy of '70s strat with a fake decal on the headstock.

the real 70s strats had a 3 bolt neck plate with an F on it.
the neck plate on this looks like the same you will find on Grecos, Lyles, Hondo etc and other companies that copied other guitar makers.

It might be a good guitar, but no way is it a real Fender.

Hmmm... +1

And dating a guitar is a great idea. They're not cheap dates, but they only talk when you want them to. Laughing
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Post by corsair Fri May 25, 2012 7:23 pm

Hmmmmm.... OK; it's not a Westone nor even a Matsumoku, as far as we can tell, so, given that this is a Westone forum, time to lock this thread up.

You could try the good folk in here...

http://www.matsumoku.org/ggboard/index.php?sid=66dab14dffba9f6aeee75ef42eca8266


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