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Post by Stabville on Sun Apr 08, 2018 5:20 pm

Iím currently working on my D4: removing spay paint from last owner and installing a Gotoh bridge per Chadís excellent post. †I would like to get some opinions on what to do about the nut/string locks.

Of course the behind the nut locks are missing the bolts and plates. †Iím looking to replace the locks and/or the nut. †The Floyd locknut looks too wide for the nut slot and the angle of the headstock, plus the strut rodís location. †Are there any locking nut options that would work?

I read on here that the Kahler behind the nut lock works as a replacement. †I am also considering changing out the tuners and using locking tuners instead of the string locks, but I have read mixed opinions on how well the locking tuners work as a string lock replacement.

What is the best option? I appreciate any insight yíall can give. †

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Post by corsair on Sun Apr 08, 2018 11:24 pm

G'day, Aaron...
.... you say your guitar is missing the bolts and nuts for the stringlock, yes? Our very own Sgt Vimes may still have some for sale if you PM him!†
If you still have the base, then you should be OK - the plates and bolts are relatively easy to come by, even if you have to make them!

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Post by Westbone on Mon Apr 09, 2018 3:16 am

Locking tuners do not replace a locking nut.

It's the word 'locking' That is all that's in common with them.

Locking tuners are for lazy fookers who can't be bothered to wind a string.... Laughing

A Kahler locking nut will not fit on your guitar if yours has/had a FT type string lock. Though a Kahler or another type can be fitted with a metal/wooden spacer. The FT type is taller than most.

A photo of what you have would help.
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Post by Stabville on Mon Apr 09, 2018 10:08 am

Corsair, Iíve thought about machining/acquiring new plates, but read on here that itís a pot metal base and the threads wear out....My idea is: If iím refinishing the guitar, now is the time to replace it if possible.

Westbone, here are some pictures:


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Post by Westbone on Mon Apr 09, 2018 10:52 am

The FT locking nut bolt threads only strip from heavy handed folks overtightning especially on the E A bolt. In normal use they're fine.

It's an easy fix anyway if they are stripped either with a helicoil insert or you can set a couple of nuts in from the bottom.
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Post by corsair on Mon Apr 09, 2018 4:41 pm

Mate, the job's a good 'un... the base is there and Sgt Vimes has a few plates left hopefully! As Damian said, the threads strip only if the bolts are overtightened on a regular basis, and are easily fixed should that happen; I've done a couple with gear bought from the internet for pennies!
Normally, on projects like this, the bloody thing's gone completely....

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Post by Westbone on Mon Apr 09, 2018 6:13 pm

Here's one for sale
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-1980s-Westone-Bendmaster-Lock-Nut-String-Tree-Retainer-MIJ-Matsumoku/173166889695?hash=item28518d0adf:g:CjwAAOSw5nxahFMT
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Post by Stabville on Tue Apr 10, 2018 10:04 am

Well it sounds like the consensus is replace the lock plates and keep it simple. †Thank you both for your help!
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Post by Sgt. Vimes on Sat Apr 14, 2018 6:24 am

Lock plates and bolts sent away today Smile
These are unpainted silver (repro parts) so I would suggest either painting them black or using them underneath the base plates you already have.
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Post by corsair on Sat Apr 14, 2018 7:06 am

Nice one, chap!!

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