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Post by Westbone on Fri Jun 13, 2014 11:58 am

A true UBC pickup.
Black plastic bottom pup. As on Spectrum ST's and such. Neck position.
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Don't worry it's not standard...(they don't exist).. Very Happy ...rewound one side of the pup.
Will try it out sometime.
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Post by Barry on Fri Jun 13, 2014 1:19 pm

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Post by Westbone on Fri Jun 13, 2014 2:12 pm

It'll be on it's way to you Barry.

Thank you for all your help... Smile
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Post by Barry on Fri Jun 13, 2014 5:50 pm

Hey Damian, very nice offer, but only if you're sure you have no use for it eh? king  

I think it might find its way into the X125 I recently got from Gittarasaurus. The GFS Crunchy Pat is a tad too hot for it.  Thinking

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Post by Westbone on Thu Jun 19, 2014 2:41 am

No problem can always do another IF needed.
Tried it out last night. Sounds fine, no volume drop when tapped.
The tapped sound is a subtle change from full on, just a tad brighter.
Nice at the neck with the Darkstar bridge.
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Post by Barry on Thu Jun 19, 2014 11:40 am

Hey hey! Finally, a real UBC. And apparently working as TP had envisioned.
Nice work mate.

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Post by Barry on Fri Jul 11, 2014 3:36 pm

Damian!
You magnificent bugger you!
This pickup is just wot the Dr. ordered! A true UBC pickup Rockwoot

I brought the X125 in to work today and swapped out the GFS Crunchy Pat that I had installed sometime ago. (Things have been dead here lately)

Man, this "UBC" sounds just great in this guitar, and without the need to add a tone pot. Just the right amount of punch on full, and a very nice clarity on the cut without losing major volume. Just as TP had pictured it I expect.

I wonder why these were never mass produced? They're certainly terrific in the right guitar.

Back story, for them wot cares:
I picked up a pair of cheap MMK45's in dubious condition not long ago. One was fine, the other had a broken coil connection which I couldn't repair. I also happened to have another 45 in similar condition already in a Vantage Entertainar. So...I took the good coils from each to make one good 45 which I used to make the Vantage whole again.

Knowing Damian was a collector and tinkerer, I contacted him to see if he could make use of the 2 bum coils. He said sure, so off they went. Next thing I know he's rewound one of the coils and done this clever little UBC creation. Which he then returned to me!

A BIG Canuck thanks Damian for such a wonderful gesture! This guitar has gone from an interesting collector's novelty to guitar that is actually a damn good player. So, much appreciated! 
A true UBC pickup Smiley-gen014

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Post by Westbone on Fri Jul 11, 2014 10:43 pm

Wink No problemo!

Just my way of saying "thank you" to Barry, who drove to the other side of town to collect some pickups for me and post them on.
Saved a good few bob on customs and handling charges.
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Post by Barry on Fri Nov 07, 2014 10:25 pm

Well, since that last post in July, I have been fiddling with the UBC in this guitar and I am sad to say that it just isn't working out quite as well as I had first hoped.

I hasten to add that it's no fault of the new improved UBC pickup. Damian did a fantastic job on it, and it sounds great.
No, the problem is that this model "Spectrum" is based on American Strat string spacing (much wider), the trem is a standard Strat style.

Add to this the fact that this is really a Neck pup and slightly narrower to begin with and you end up with this (usual apologies for the crap pictures from my old phone camera under fluorescent lights):

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Unfortunately, by the time you get to the treble side of the string pack the high E is so far off the pole it can barely be heard. Sad
No amount of raising the mount or the poles would compensate enough:
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Alas, the only cure was yet another pickup swap. This time using one of a pair of 'no-name' MIK lower output pickups that I had got stuck with in a transaction gone horribly bad some time ago. (you can read that sorry saga starting from this post if you're a masochist).

These too, were Neck pups so the spacing isn't dead on, but it is light years closer than the UBC was:
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It turns out that this pickup had just the right amount of "omph!" for this guitar without being overpowering, just a tad over 8k. And the coil cut has a pleasant enough tone even at 4k'sh. Remember the guitar has no tone control so the goal was to try and keep at least the outward appearance as stock as possible while managing to deliver enough output to be respectable. So far, so good. I like the tone very much.

And it is much more satisfying to hear all the strings in a chord. Coffee Drinker
Thanks again Damian. I shall have to find a more suitable home for your creation.

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Post by Westbone on Sat Nov 08, 2014 2:06 pm

Exactly, it is a neck pup... Smile
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Post by Barry on Tue Apr 09, 2019 6:00 pm

Well, well, well....looks like I may just be the King of the Zombie threads here! tongue

The regulars may recall the tale of my Spectrum X125 which I got from Mike (gittarasaurus) about 6 years ago! (If not, here's the LINK)


I went through several pickup changes but the gist of my dilemma is that I wanted to maintain the original look of the single pickup/single control, but the output was always too harsh and really needed a tone pot to control the treble frequencies.

That would mean adding another control pot which I didn't want to do, and of course I don't have another matching Switchmaster knob anyway.

Lots of folks contributed ideas and I thank them all for that, but nothing really solved my problem in the way I wanted. So the guitar has remained "unfinished" in my mind and a recurring source of irritation.

But now, I discovered what I think may be the ideal solution!
Corsair actually asked the question early on, if a tone control could be added to a push pull pot. The idea was pretty much glossed over and never revisited properly, by me or anyone else.

Quite independently, I came across this schematic which shows that you can indeed wire a push pull pot to be both a Volume on the down position AND a Tone in the up position!

I'm very happy to have found this, I was about to go seriously bonkers with this obsession. I have already wired in a push pull for a coil split so it will be a matter of moving a few wires and adding a cap, et voila!

The only down side is that I give up the single coil option, but no big loss really.
Have a look and see what you think: PDF of the schematic

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Post by Sgt. Vimes on Sat May 11, 2019 4:45 am

That's all well and good, but if you've set your tone and need a volume change, you'll lose the tone setting when you push down, no?
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Post by Barry on Sat May 11, 2019 10:43 am

Dunno Pete, I haven't got off me lazy arse to try it yet.  Sleep on Couch

I didn't see any discussion about the function of this mod. I assume that if that were the case there would have been objections raised.

Since the cap is constantly in the circuit, at worst, I guess it would default to the cap value?

Thanks for harshing my mellow.

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Post by Sgt. Vimes on Sat May 11, 2019 10:46 am

Barry mate, you're too long in the tooth to have your mellow tainted by a ponderous question Smile
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Post by Barry on Mon Nov 11, 2019 4:45 pm

And if you just can't get enough (you poor masochistic sod) see the continuation/completion of this saga in this NEW THREAD

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Post by corsair on Mon Nov 11, 2019 6:04 pm

Sgt. Vimes wrote:but if you've set your tone and need a volume change, you'll lose the tone setting when you push down, no?
Valid question.

From my understanding, I don't think altering one will alter the other as they are, for all intents and purposes, separate parts of the circuit, and of the pot....

Quite happy to be educated...

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Post by Sgt. Vimes on Mon Nov 11, 2019 6:21 pm

I would try this out John but I don't have a guitar with a push/pull anymore =(
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Post by Barry on Mon Nov 11, 2019 8:32 pm

I may yet revisit this project (God help me) and try the tone-on-top push pull wiring.

I wasn't able to find anyone who had actually done this but everyone was an "expert" on why it wouldn't work!  Rolling Eyes

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