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Post by drsyn67 Sat Dec 29, 2012 10:52 pm

OK... so here's the first of the new designs. Since we have a nice community of friendlies, I thought I would share this first draft for opinions. I also have some other grafitti / flourishes designs that I am working on.

As you will see in these images, there is a nice blue and ghastly pink Smile version displayed. What i can do is THIS: If this or any other design has enough interest and preorders, I can supply shirt color, type and style TO ORDER! This means hoodies, short sleeve Vnecks, regular fitted T-shirts or whatever. That way I'm not throwing ink against the wall hoping it will sell and we all can benefit from each other's mutual interest. If the design sucks and there is no interest - then okay - I'm not offended. I'll probably make a few for myself, put a handful up on Ebay and be done with it. Maybe tongue

Please feel free to put in your two cents (or more!). If I print these, they will be on 100% Cotton using silkscreened inks. They will sell for the same price or similar to the Electra shirts and I will accept PM orders or Ebay orders. International orders welcomed (I just shipped an Electra shirt to Moscow and the buyer advised he could send photos of himself wearing it in front of the Kremlin - cool, huh!!!!!)

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Post by Guest Sat Dec 29, 2012 11:00 pm

As a fan of the Pantera line I would buy one of those eh
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Post by TVill25 Sat Dec 29, 2012 11:20 pm

I'm in especially v-neck blue tall
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Post by Iceman Sun Dec 30, 2012 1:43 pm

This might sound stupid, but that hasn't stopped me yet...

What about a wide guitar strap with the Bird W logo running along it extending from one shoulder across the chest diagonally to the opposite side of the front above the hip. Then on the back of the shirt an outline of one or more of the models angled upside down along that same angle.

Get what I am hinting at?
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Post by hobster Sun Dec 30, 2012 6:03 pm

Those are very cool, but i'd love to see one without the Pantera logo..........maybe one for us Spectrum fans?~ New possible SHIRT design:  Thoughts? 413889333
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Post by drsyn67 Sun Dec 30, 2012 6:38 pm

I'm already ahead of ya, Hob. Love Ice's idea... when I get to the point where I can print the complete front of a shirt, that's a definite design I will do and our cold friend Up North (the Hero) will have at least one coming with my compliments.
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Post by J.a.c.aranda87 Tue Jan 01, 2013 9:49 pm

Wow! Count me in! And, I actually like that pink/fuchsia color!
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Post by Iceman Tue Jan 01, 2013 11:49 pm

Best make certain to pm me ahead when the time comes, Mark.

Between you, me and the lamp post the next tees coming here WILL need to be for my wife ( well... at least some of them ). She really likes my Electra shirts in Brown & Black, and she was disappointed to say the least that you were out of the smaller sizes.

Me being up on her 2 - nil already is just bearable.... no need to poke at a tiger that's already restless, ya' dig? Angry 2

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Post by Barry Wed Jan 02, 2013 9:15 am

Thanks for the effort man.
We do love our old Westie geetars around these here parts, even if nobody else knows what we're on about half the time! tongue

As to your prototype design, may I suggest that you refocus/rebalance the graphics?

This design has 3 distinct components overlaying one another and competing too much for attention. Each logo is a strong design element in itself (as it was designed to be) so I believe you either need to rearrange or downsize something for clarity.

If the goal is to produce a series of shirts spotlighting different models it makes sense, I think, to use the Westone "bird" as the unifying component, but greatly reduced and not overlaying anything else.

Pick one distinct element as the central message, and use anything else sparingly to support it.

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Post by drsyn67 Wed Jan 02, 2013 9:21 am

Thanks, Barry. The first version of this did not include the Westone bird logo, and in hindsight, I think if it stays large, it needs to be lighter than it is on the blue shirt. Please disregard the gacky pink shirt as a design example Smile I also had the bird logo small under the guitar silhouette, and that was way out of balance and competed too much. Ideally, I would have the Westone logo twice the size on an all-over-shirt design (and tilted from corner to corner) and nice and light... but alas, I am not at the point where I can do all-over printing (yet). With further hindsight, i've felt like I needed to explore this more and wished that I did before sharing...but I was excited at the prospect. Tracing that every letter and the cat icon took forever to get it clean and right! More to come...
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Post by The Chad Wed Jan 02, 2013 10:18 am

I too would like to see a shirt with just the birdie on it.
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Post by drsyn67 Wed Jan 02, 2013 10:21 am

I didn't do one of those because I think someone else offers the Bird-only logo shirts and I would not compete with another vendor's design. If I am incorrect, I can offer that.
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Post by The Chad Wed Jan 02, 2013 10:43 am

Ah yes, right you are! Completely forgot!
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Post by drsyn67 Wed Jan 02, 2013 12:27 pm

A few other options along the clean & simple route... I will only be printing one Pantera design initially, so I welcome your input with this endeavor. I would expect some would prefer the headstock on the Pantera silhouette to have the Deluxe 350MA style, but I chose the pointy style since it is more accessible (and common among those manufactured).

In the near future I hope to offer Spectrum, Dimension, Dynasty, Thunder and other model designs as a series of shirts - likely using the silhouette design (with or without some other flourishes and accents). There is very little profit in this labor, so if you like something your interest and support help keep it alive. (Despite earlier claims, I, in fact, do NOT own Ebay Smile Private sales and Ebay both are welcomed.

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Post by hobster Wed Jan 02, 2013 12:49 pm

I like the 3rd one myself, very suttle and only a true Westie fan would know what it is. I recieved my Electra shirt a couple of days ago - i love it Very Happy I thought about posting a pic of me wearing it with my "butt ugly" Outlaw for Westbone Razz
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Post by Barry Wed Jan 02, 2013 9:41 pm

Now ya got it! Much more effective.

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Post by drsyn67 Wed Jan 02, 2013 10:21 pm

Yeah, I hope so... I've only been doing this for 27 years cheers
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Post by TVill25 Thu Jan 03, 2013 1:42 am

Third ones the best. I think I like your bird W better. The other shirts the logo is rather small. It may not be but the pics don't make it seem so.

Maybe the Westone Pantera variant. The all block letter version??
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Post by drsyn67 Thu Jan 03, 2013 7:40 am

Thanks all. One other variation I considered was this... which I think may be what TVill is describing. The bird on these is not very big - and that is intentional. (I think the angle on "Pantera" is a little off... but this is just for proof purposes... I do not print on an angle so getting it just right on these model photos is a bit of a challenge).

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Post by gittarasaurus Thu Jan 03, 2013 9:35 am

i like the style of print in the catalog on this page (without the "standard basses" part)
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Post by The Chad Thu Jan 03, 2013 9:41 am

If you can design one that looks good, I'd like to see a shirt full of various Westies, but not in a gimmicky geeky kind of way. In a cool way that you could wear out and not be a novelty. Hopefully you know what I mean? I have a Gibson shirt with various SG's and LP's stacked up on top of one another and horizontally facing one another in two vertical columns, looks really cool and not gimmicky at all.

Either sillhoettes or outlines, whatever may be easier for you to do. Have a Presitge, Pantera, Raider, Dynasty, Dim IV, Monark, Spectrum, Thunder, Concord, Dana, Corsair, etc.
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Post by Barry Thu Jan 03, 2013 11:51 am

gittarasaurus wrote:i like the style of print in the catalog on this page (without the "standard basses" part)
There ya go. Already solved.

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Post by TVill25 Thu Jan 03, 2013 6:46 pm

Does anybody have a picture handy of the all block lettering that says Pantera Westone??? There's a good picture on the http://www.westone.info/x790.html sight? Is that allowed??
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Post by J.a.c.aranda87 Thu Jan 03, 2013 8:47 pm

Wow! I'm impressed! I like both the design with the cat and bird, and the design with the cat, bird, and Pantera logo. If my two cents are worth much here.
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Post by drsyn67 Fri Jan 11, 2013 10:24 pm

Thanks, all, for your input. I like the logo version from the catalog that Mike shared, but will likely first produce the subtle "cat & bird" design first. I hope to produce the others that have been suggested, and per Chad's comment, I AM already working on one that features a huge group of silhouettes (or line drawings - like technical images... I haven't decided which way its going yet!).

For a little odd background on this ongoing shirt venture, the shirts are silkscreened by a friend who has a small shirt printing shop. He is deaf and a really pleasant guy with some unfortunate challenges in his life. We have fun conversations that are alot of quick scribble handed back & forth. Presently, his screen size is limited to 14" square, so for the moment, that is the design area that I am working with (which is fine for most designs). Eventually I want to do full-coverage shirts (and have vendor resources for doing so), but I am keeping things with my guy for the moment b/c he needs the work and I hate to take anything away from him. I never print more than two dozen at a time (because I don't want a closet full of these - despite loving them - and because finances aren't what they used to be). At the moment I have about a dozen LARGE and XXL brown Electra shirts, and a few Black Headstock shirts in LARGE. Sale of those could help make the other designs move forward (since I just reinvest the money from one into the next)...

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Post by Iceman Sat Jan 12, 2013 1:24 am

I have one of each of those shirts and will freely vouch for the shirt quality and the detail of the silkscreening.

These are excellent shirts!



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Post by mortarman120gang11c Sat Jan 12, 2013 10:54 am

I also have at least one of each of both of these Electra shirts and will also vouch that they are excellent quality and very comfortable. Top notch
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Post by hobster Wed Jan 16, 2013 1:36 pm

mortarman120gang11c wrote:I also have at least one of each of both of these Electra shirts and will also vouch that they are excellent quality and very comfortable. Top notch

Yup!
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Post by jim Thu Jan 17, 2013 3:21 pm

How about : ~ New possible SHIRT design:  Thoughts? Shirt_10
On the left arm only! Understated, sophisticated. Maybe a tiny bit smaller and higher. ~ New possible SHIRT design:  Thoughts? 419367009
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Post by drsyn67 Thu Jan 17, 2013 5:30 pm

This guy has haunted house eyez.
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Post by jim Fri Jan 18, 2013 10:03 am

drsyn67 wrote:This guy has haunted house eyez.

My bad take on image manipulation, shopping Trevor Rabin's head on a model showing a T-shirt. clown The angle is off and I am still learning Gimp, it's different from the former progs I used have to get used to it. Still learning and often confused. I probably shouldn't have sharpened his eyes.

Anyway it's about an idea for a shirt design a bit more low profile and subtle, maybe it's just me but I like it that way.
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Post by drsyn67 Fri Jan 18, 2013 10:06 am

Hey Jim - I was just having some fun commenting on the image. Love the idea... like it VERY much.
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Post by jim Fri Jan 18, 2013 12:08 pm

TVill25 wrote:Does anybody have a picture handy of the all block lettering that says Pantera Westone??? There's a good picture on the http://www.westone.info/x790.html sight? Is that allowed??

Read here: http://forum.westoneguitars.net/t3817-reproducing-headstock-logos#33983
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Post by corsair Fri Jan 18, 2013 5:40 pm

Liking the left arm one.....
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Post by bobroberts Sun Jan 20, 2013 5:58 am

I like the strap idea..
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